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This means not much emphasis on the RAIDs, but will still have some. You know - just a big family guild.

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Waamblem of Sanctuary, lv 63 Ranger - I will celebrate 65 one day.
http://sanctuary.guildportal.com/
"For Honor and Valor"

There already is.

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Duchess Lana Mercyhand
Lord Protector of Destiny
Grandmaster Baker/Brewer
Tanks for the memories
~moejoe chamois, 65 shaman~|~cambria silverfir, 65 druid~|~magella summner, 55 mage~

Yeah, destiny, and the horde, are both pretty family oriented guilds, though they have scheduled raid nights a few days of the week.

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Destiny only has a full guild raid once a week, on Saturday morning pst. This is so our sizeable Euro Destiny contingent can participate.

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Duchess Lana Mercyhand
Lord Protector of Destiny
Grandmaster Baker/Brewer
Tanks for the memories
~moejoe chamois, 65 shaman~|~cambria silverfir, 65 druid~|~magella summner, 55 mage~

Please define family guild. Every time I hear it, it seems to vary from a guild that is just a chat channel all the way to a guild that "only" raids 20 hours a week.

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Sage Deelron Elessedil, Arcanist
<Temerity>

I hear temerity is a n ice family guild, they only raid 20 days a week, so not to much time away from your family.

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http://www.blizzard.com/wow/townhall/trolls.shtml

Saenayil be my soul brother. We can raid -16 days a week and spend 20 days a week in hhk. With 2 people we can kill TWO nobles instead of just one every respawn.

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Aristar Grey
Archon
Temerity

lol , i wasnt dissing temerity, i was saying they were a nice guild, and FYI i can take at least 4 nobles/bards/issabella at a time, its just really hard and completely drains my mana pool . see ya around soul sis'

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Hey waa, what do you mean by "high level"? Do you mean a guild filled with level 65 characters? Or do you mean a guild that hits the highest level and most difficult bosses?

Level 65 is easy, especially with Tier 2 open to anyone of sufficient level. So pretty much any guild can be a "high level family guild"

If you're looking for a casual guild that raids say, Plane of Time, it's never going to happen. To get and keep a raid force capable of handling the top game content, requires an excessive amount of commitment in terms of time and training. Not altogether family friendly.

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Nikolai Lianfyrr,
Khati Sha Feral Lord.
GM Tailor (250), GM Smith (250), GM Brewer (250), GM Potter (250), GM Fisherman (200), GM Jeweler (250), Fletcher (220), Chef (200)

I would assume since he said not too much emphasis on raids he knows that a "family guild" — a close-knit group of long time friends who enjoy grouping over endless raiding — would not be either capable or necessarily interested in Plane of Time raids. This isn't to say that they can't get a couple or three groups together once in whille and get some epic drops or kill a boss just for fun. A guild of several or even many 65s that isn't interested in endless raiding is not very far off on Al'Kabor. It will be family guild. That it can't do Plane of Time is neither a question or even relevant because it won't care about where it fits in on the tier echelon chart.

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Duchess Lana Mercyhand
Lord Protector of Destiny
Grandmaster Baker/Brewer
Tanks for the memories
~moejoe chamois, 65 shaman~|~cambria silverfir, 65 druid~|~magella summner, 55 mage~

Am I imagining the hostility or what? I'd actually like to hear the original posters point of view. What constitutes raid oriented? How many raids a week means it's no longer a 'family guild'? What should be the requirements for attending guild events (if any)? Please be more specific.

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Baby Jesus cries if you haven't abused Kyth today.

Sage Deelron Elessedil, Arcanist
<Temerity>

What you're saying is "a guild that prefers grouping over raiding", and not "a family guild". I realize you're speaking in relative terms, but by general EQ standards all of the guilds on this server -- including the major three raiding ones -- are family guilds. Some just with more interest in raids than others.

You don't see any of the "recruit must be level X with Y AAs" recruiting or DKP (dwagon kill points) loot distribution practices here. Neither do you have guilds that tag total strangers to improve their raid force -- instead they emphasize personality and background in their recruiting practices... etc, etc...

(The opposite of a guild that raids is not a family guild... it's a guild that doesn't raid )

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Retired Temerity meat shield.

The top three guilds are "family guilds?" What goes on in the PC world is irrelevant here except maybe to those who attach importance to the knowledge of such things. What's important on Al'Kabor is what exists on Al'Kabor, and by Al'Kabor standards guilds that mostly raid are raiding, not family guilds, or simply guilds that raid a lot. I guess that's not a very romantic view of the Al'kabor world but it's one that's accurate for all but those who really wish their guild was viewed a one big happy family.




Apparently you are. As for specifics, isn't narrowing down everything to a cut and dried definition sort of anti-family? What you ask for sounds more like a militia or some other regimental "family."

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Duchess Lana Mercyhand
Lord Protector of Destiny
Grandmaster Baker/Brewer
Tanks for the memories
~moejoe chamois, 65 shaman~|~cambria silverfir, 65 druid~|~magella summner, 55 mage~

Not defining things means anything means whatever the hell you want it to mean at any given point. Just because something has an actual meaning in a language doesn't make it regimental or military in any sense of the word.

And in reference to Shylah's post, every guild on the server is family friendly to a large extent. There is no guild that does the things she points out, nor are there any that require raid attendance. RL always comes first with EVERY guild on Al'Kabor. Just because one guild raids 4 times a week, and another less, makes neither less family oriented then the other, as long as attendance is not required. All I see is my guild providing more opportunities to raid then others, and if I want to take advantage of them or not it's my choice.

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Sage Deelron Elessedil, Arcanist
<Temerity>

Also remember that raiding is not required in SoN even though we have raiding as one of the things we do. The raiders in SoN are pretty dedicated, but we also have members that just casually group and are considered more casual players. It's not looked down upon to just skip a raid because you want to finish a level, or if just because you're not in the mood. I see most of the guilds on the server as being this way.

The Temerity members have a very strong and correct assessment about what it takes to get to the end game play though. You have to be a strong dedicated raid force to go where they are right now.

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Retired Hunter Brein Leifson, WE Forest Stalker <Temerity>