Before you start leveraging the DC exodus as an argument against guild v. guild competition, Lanbana: that is hardly the real, full story
Well thank heaven it isn't and that I didn't suggest that it was. But to say that there isn't an influence from competition in many ways in any group of people is just ignoring the obvious.
hahahahaha -- you're funny.
As for Tem, sure, keep calling us evil and eventually we'll start joking about it because we're sick of it, and if you can't beat 'em join 'em.
As for DC, hmmm... how about you actually talk to some of the people involved, or at least get more into the server gossip stream, before you assume that a large number of very good, nice, loyal people would up and leave their guild simply because Tem was, for a brief period of time, killing some of their targets? (Tem has not competed with DC for targets for a while now.)
Your admonishment that i get more into gossip both misses and makes my point. I have assumed nothing, and the specific reason anybody leaves or stays is their own; I'm not the slightest bit interested. Because i'm not interested in idle gossip and interviewing people as to why they do things that are none of my business, I can have an outsiders perspective. From my perspective there is always some influence on a guild when intense competition is involved. To what degree each person is affected is relative, but ignoring that competition can have an effect on the attitudes of the members of a guild is ignoring human nature.
What's really important, and the point of my argument, is that the perceptions of those who are new to the game, thinking of joining, thinking of leaving, thinking of making a change, are important. Guild competition can have an effect on those pereptions, especially if the competion turns negative and changes for whatever personal reason ensue. Of course there are indvidual reasons for doing everything, that's not the point, the point is that competition at the guild level, leads to a broader attitude and perception on the server, and one that I believe is a negative.
When there is more than one mac server, when we have thousands of players, and many more choices in guilds, my attitude may very well be different, but for now I think guild competition affects everybody on the server some way and for the most part it's negative.